ICE-Treff - EC Wien Venezia

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Daniel — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:16:42 +0000

This problem look like connection Prag - Bayern. D 350-357 are bad and slow, but on different from EC 30/31 go and will go.

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Anoj 1 — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:04:40 +0000

Hello!

Because go to trip in Italy will difficult by train.

That's true and a very big problem. The trains Austria - Italy in 2010 are:
- 5 EC Munich - Kufstein - Innsbruck - Bolzano ( - Verona - Bologna)
- CNL Munich - Kufstein - Innsbruck - Verona - Roma/Venezia
- EN Vienna - Venezia Mestre - Roma/Milano
- EN Vienna - Salzburg - Villach - Venezia SL

Bye,
Anoj

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Daniel — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:57:06 +0000

Hallo, but some connection OBB -FS must be? I think, that if not earn train between Wien and Venezia, so would go. Because go to trip in Italy will difficult by train. Sorry for my bad English.
Bye

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Anoj 1 — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:52:26 +0000

Hello!

2) ÖBB look for a partner (-> EC via Brennero) in Italy to run RJ Vienna - Venezia together (ÖBB + italian partner).

That Italian partner is LeNord, formerly known as "Ferrovie Nord Milano".
They also run commuter trains / suburban trains (S-Bahn) in and near Milan.
They also run freight trains all across Italy and abroad.

I know, but I wrote about EC/RJ Vienna - Venezia. There LeNord/FNM isn't the partner of the ÖBB.

Bye,
Anoj

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Oscar (NL) — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:11:07 +0000

Hello!

Do you know, why end up EC 30/31 WIen Venezia???

-> http://www.ice-fanforum.de/index.php?id=40627 (german)

"FS/Trenitalia" doesn't want international trains between Austria and Italy.

Welcome to ICE FanForum!

Please feel free to write in English if that suits you better.
Most of the forum members understand the language.

About the missing EC 30/31: I guess this is the price we have to pay for the overblown efforts of the Italians in their high-speed / high-capacity network.
Connections to Austria (Vienna via Klagenfurt as well as Munich via Brenner Pass) and Switzerland (Zurich via Gotthard as well as Basel via Simplon) are not profitable enough (maybe except the freight trains, which will probably run at profit).

Cheers,

Oscar (NL).

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Oscar (NL) — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:01:14 +0000

2) ÖBB look for a partner (-> EC via Brennero) in Italy to run RJ Vienna - Venezia together (ÖBB + italian partner).

That Italian partner is LeNord, formerly known as "Ferrovie Nord Milano".
They also run commuter trains / suburban trains (S-Bahn) in and near Milan.
They also run freight trains all across Italy and abroad.

Cheer from the Netherlands,

Oscar (NL).

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Anoj 1 — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:31:21 +0000

Hello!

And in future to Venezia will go Railjet or FS don´t want RJ and connection Villach Venezia will only ICBus.

There are 2 possibilities:
1) There will be only IC-Bus (Vienna-) Klagenfurt - Venezia
2) ÖBB look for a partner (-> EC via Brennero) in Italy to run RJ Vienna - Venezia together (ÖBB + italian partner).

Bye,
Anoj

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Daniel — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:22:01 +0000

And in future to Venezia will go Railjet or FS don´t want RJ and connection Villach Venezia will only ICBus.Bye

EC Wien Venezia (Antwort)

Anoj 1 — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:15:35 +0000

Hello!

Do you know, why end up EC 30/31 WIen Venezia???

-> http://www.ice-fanforum.de/index.php?id=40627 (german)

"FS/Trenitalia" doesn't want international trains between Austria and Italy.

m b g,
Anoj

EC Wien Venezia

Daniel — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:09:50 +0000

Do you know, why end up EC 30/31 WIen Venezia???