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<title>@ Class37: Different Bmz (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Ampz 143 - new seats (old seats will be situated to the CD Apee)<br />
Bmz 241 - refurbished seats with new cover</p>
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The 'before' and 'after' pictures look very different to me:<br />
<a href="http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/cz/car/EuroCity/Bmz/interior/CD_Bmz_in.jpg">http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/cz/car/EuroCity/Bmz/interior/CD_Bmz_in.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.skoda.cz/cs/press-room/tiskove-zpravy/prvni-vozy-projektu-hamburk-jsou-predavany/">http://www.skoda.cz/cs/press-room/tiskove-zpravy/prvni-vozy-projektu-hamburk-jsou-preda...</a> (see picture 4)</p>
</blockquote><p>Hi Class37,<br />
the Bmz on your 'before' is not a Bmz 241. &quot;Old&quot; pictures of Bmz you will find here: <a href="http://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/CZ/CD_Bmz241.php">http://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/CZ/CD_Bmz241.php</a></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 21:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>more images / Skode-Pressemitteilung (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hi,</p>
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&quot;the coachs shown on this picture are Ampz143 and Bmz241 with &quot;old&quot; seats with new seat cover (and new screens and carpet)? Is this right?&quot;</p>
<p>Ampz 143 - new seats (old seats will be situated to the CD Apee)<br />
Bmz 241 - refurbished seats with new cover</p>
</blockquote><p>The 'before' and 'after' pictures look very different to me:<br />
<a href="http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/cz/car/EuroCity/Bmz/interior/CD_Bmz_in.jpg">http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/cz/car/EuroCity/Bmz/interior/CD_Bmz_in.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.skoda.cz/cs/press-room/tiskove-zpravy/prvni-vozy-projektu-hamburk-jsou-predavany/">http://www.skoda.cz/cs/press-room/tiskove-zpravy/prvni-vozy-projektu-hamburk-jsou-preda...</a> (see picture 4)</p>
<p>S.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 10:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Ampz 146 and Bmz 245 (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you again!</p>
<blockquote><p>+ new air conditioning + new Wi-fi + new electronic information system</p>
</blockquote><p>Good to know. I like the design.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ampz 146 and Bmz 245 will be also refurbished</p>
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Okay. I hope, the Bmz 245 will get only new cover, not new seats like in German Eurofima coachs.<br />
For the Ampz 146 tables at the vis-a-vis seats will be important.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>more images / Skode-Pressemitteilung (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p><br />
&quot;the coachs shown on this picture are Ampz143 and Bmz241 with &quot;old&quot; seats with new seat cover (and new screens and carpet)? Is this right?&quot;</p>
<p>Ampz 143 - new seats (old seats will be situated to the CD Apee)<br />
Bmz 241 - refurbished seats with new cover</p>
<p>+ new air conditioning + new Wi-fi + new electronic information system</p>
<p>&quot;What will be with the other &quot;old coachs&quot;? Will the Bmz245 also be refurbished?&quot;</p>
<p>Ampz 146 and Bmz 245 will be also refurbished</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
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<title>more images / Skode-Pressemitteilung (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see <a href="http://www.skoda.cz/cs/press-room/tiskove-zpravy/prvni-vozy-projektu-hamburk-jsou-predavany/">http://www.skoda.cz/cs/press-room/tiskove-zpravy/prvni-vozy-projektu-hamburk-jsou-preda...</a></p>
<blockquote><p>What will be with the other &quot;old coachs&quot;? Will the Bmz245 also be refurbished?</p>
</blockquote><p>Answer to my own: As I understand, only WRmz 815, Ampz 143 and Bmz 241 will be be refurbished.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Ampz143 and Bmz241? (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/ceskedrahy01/photos/pcb.543392662481565/543392642481567/?type=1&amp;theater">https://www.facebook.com/ceskedrahy01/photos/pcb.543392662481565/543392642481567/?type=...</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>the coachs shown on this picture are Ampz143 and Bmz241 with &quot;old&quot; seats with new seat cover (and new screens and carpet)? Is this right?<br />
Leather in first class? This is not good...</p>
<p>What will be with the other &quot;old coachs&quot;? Will the Bmz245 also be refurbished?</p>
<p>@ 611 040: Für dich wird es dann ja noch die neu-umgebauten 2. Klass-Großraumwagen der CD geben. DB-typisch mit einem Sitzteiler, der nicht zu den Fenstern passt...</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Ampz and Bmz for EC Praha-Hamburg (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mein Geschmack sind die nicht. Da gefallen mir DB Apmz und Bpmz deutlich besser. Sogar Apmz ICmod.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>611 040</dc:creator>
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<title>Danke für die Bilder (Antwort)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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