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<title>ICE-Treff - Pendolino Praha-Wien-Graz-Ljubljana-Venezia</title>
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<title>Pendolino Praha-Wien-Graz-Ljubljana-Venezia (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Trainitalia has in recent years shown a good record of axing international (day) passenger trains <strong>(look into some old timetables)</strong>.</p>
</blockquote><p>Even though buisiness strategies may have changed one has to keep in mind that the passenger market changed. The well-developed network between Italy and countries in the North was probably due to italian &quot;guest workers&quot; who settled back, made those countries their home, were able to achieve cars that made long trips possible or profited by lowering plane tickets...<br />
I do not believe that interest in such trains nowadays is as high in former times.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>Benjamin.Keller</dc:creator>
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<title>Pendolino Praha-Wien-Graz-Ljubljana-Venezia (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New international trains into Italy at the moment? I don't think so ;)</p>
<p>At the moment the only train heading to eastern Europe and Croatia from Italy is one single night train a day.</p>
<p>Trainitalia has in recent years shown a good record of axing international (day) passenger trains (look into some old timetables).</p>
<p>However, european regulations alow foreign opperators to run international trains in other countries on their own, but if you're familiar with what is happening to the DB-OEBB trains on the Munich-Innsbruch-Verona-Milano/Venezia/Bologna route and a bit into southern european mentality you can guess the results.</p>
<p>All the efforts by Trenitalia have lead the DB-ÖBB services to have become nicknamed &quot;Mystery Trains&quot;. It is said they don't make any great profits.</p>
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I realy believe there is a marked for such connections, but it is Trenitalia who has to deal with that issue. They do not have intention to provide &quot;normal&quot; long distance services, unless to Sicily or the isles (or let other companies provide these, I suspect at least they want to keep themselves the market open). Trenitalias strategy is to provide fast connections (&lt; 4 hours).</p>
<p><strong>IF</strong> this wis true, it would be great news, but the author does not state any resources. <strong>Why don't you ask in the forum</strong> (Vlaki.info)<strong>, if you speak the language (I suspect it's in Czech), for resources and tell us the results?</strong></p>
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<p>Kurz auf Deutsch:</p>
<p>Daniel hat ein (ich vermute tschechisches) Forum verlinkt, in dem ein Schreiber, anüpndigt die Pendolinos würden von Wien weiter nach Venedig duchgebunden werden.</p>
<p>Meine Vorredner und ich glauben da nicht wirklich drann.</p>
<p>Ich war einfach mal so frei, Daniel aufzufordern die Frage nach dem Wahrheitsgehalt einfach mal im anderen Forum zu stellen und den Autor um entsprechende Quellen zu bitten.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>Uniqum</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>CD has IMHO less Pendolinos to offer such a service. Perhaps this services could be possible with the RJ-trainsets, but I think this report is a canard ;-)</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>NIM rocks</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>In the orignal plan the Pendolino (CD680) was scheduled as a replacement for the EC Berlin-Praha-Wien and there have been some test rides in Germany to get a certification for the German railway network. However, it seems that CD has decided to limit service to Praha-Wien.</p>
<p>I would wonder if the train would be allowed to run on the Italien and Slovenien network even if it should be technical possible.</p>
<p>The original links lacks a source and Google translate is also not very helpful to get information out of it.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Johannes</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>ice-t-411</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I found interesting link: <a href="http://www.vlaki.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=6435">http://www.vlaki.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=6435</a></p>
<p>In link is  inforamtion: Czech pendolino will ride in timetable 2011/2012 Praha-Wien-Graz-Ljubljana-Venezia. Do you know anything more about this stuff?</p>
<p>Thank you for answers.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Allgemeines Forum</category><dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
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